I really only followed it for about a day, because frankly, I wasn't that interested. My personal 2 cents is that a complete OOP implementation is critical for RAD as well as maintainabilty and that VB projects take longer than VFP project and are less maintainable because VB lacks pure OOP. I didn't mean to insult the VB community, but for the most part, I think they just don't know what they're missing. Since the majority of VB people are happy working in VB and aren't likely to really look at what it gets them, they never will know unless VB gets it. Does it matter at all? No.