OK Victor thanks, I'll take a look!
To be honest I have noticed that quite a few PHP developers seem to prefer doing things by hand- just as some VFP developers preferred DEFINE CLASS to the visual class designer, and for many of the same reasons.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us."
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
