You and Tamar have both mentioned private meetings and conversations. You can say a lot in private and M$ doesn't care, but say some things in public and it's a different story. I just don't think that - overall - the "gurus" have done enough in a public way. I can't lay blame on any one person or any one group - there is more to it than that. Ultimately I lay the blame of M$, of course. But I just wanted a more public stance and a tougher stance from the "gurus" and I don't think I saw that over the years. As I said, both you and Tamar have helped me at least once and I appreciate it.

>You have no idea what has been said in private by the gurus.