>What I'm about to say is similar to what Martín Salías said to you a few months ago in Message #1219155, when he said that he couldn't talk with you anymore....except that I'm not as nice as he is. (Funny how you didn't say he was chickening out...). I'd suggest anyone else who is viewing this post should also read Martín's message.
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>- I'd can it with the 'chicken out' talk if I were you - I make more technical contributions up here than you do.
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>- I've actually been privately criticized by a few for wasting my time in these debates with you. Part of me wishes these individuals would come forward with their comments, though you (Walter) have openly acknowledged a level of stubbornness and arrogance that I doubt ANY feedback would make a difference to you.
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>- It seems that many debates between us wind up with you learning something that you previously didn't know. I sure don't feel obligated to help someone's learning curve, when they'll eventually turn around and mouth off the way you do. If I felt I was somehow 'gaining' something in these debates, maybe I'd continue - but I can honestly say I've gained zero knowledge or valuable insight from you in these discussions.

I gave up on debates with that guy long, long ago.

Regardless I appreciate discussing this very topic with you. I agree with you that most companies are doing SP-centric systems. I am convinced that people are often using SPs incorrectly. Like that college professor I keep mentioning. He only uses SPs for everything but still managed to make things unbearably slow for the users. SPs are not the "only" solution and not always the "best" solution. They should be used judiciously. Ad-hoc queries are also not the only solution, nor always the best solution. They too should be used judiciously.