It's always the 4th Thursday in November. It used to be that you saw Halloween or Harvest type decorations in October, Thanksgiving decorations in November, and the week following Thanksgiving the Christmas decorations went up.


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>>For me, anytime after Thanksgiving is ok. Earlier than that is ridiculous. I've seen two houses in my neighborhood already with christmas lights on at night!
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>>>>>>>>>Aye, you could well have a point there. The fox hunting ban, however, was just on hunting with packs of dogs. I undersatnd that a farmer can still shoot the blighters. There was pro-hunt protest before the ban that shooting doesn't ensure a kill and may lead to a fox's dragging itself off to die in agony somewhere. But, of course, they WOULD, wouldn't they.
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>>>>>>>>Amazing, what? I guess they felt letting it die like that was inhuman. Listening to it's screams while watching it being torn apart by dogs, on the other hand, is fine sport participated in by great hunters. Contempt doesn't begin describe how I feel about them.
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>>>>>>>>Sorry, I'm beginning to rant, so... the end.
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>>>>>>>Never mind that! I want to kill now! Coming back from lunch I just noticed a large Santa Claus figure in a cafe across the road!
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>>>>>>I know how you feel. Santa should never be associated with evil caffein. ;)
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>>>>>Don't mess with me, Alan. When I see out-of-season Santas, snowmen, reindeers, false snow, etc. I see 2 kinds of red. I cannot abide Xmas starting in November, never mind October! Next will be the TV supermarket and dept. store ads, with celebs on, cracking on they're enjoying this Xmas, with all the "family" around, sitting down to tuck into their Xmas dinner, when Xmas is still in the future.
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>>>>>Bah freakin humbug!
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>>>>>>>>>>end of fox hunt = foxes everywhere???
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>>>>Christmas should start 1 week before the 25th . Then anything goes.
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>>>Totally agree. I can understand furniture ads with their "Order now and have your new sofa for Xmas" (although WHY someone would want to go to the extra expense of buying furniture at this time of year is beyond me), as there is of necessity a lead time involved. I can also forgive, say, Xmas hamper weekly payment schemes. To SOME extent I can forgive Xmas deccies in shop windows (from mid November). But WHY does a cafe need a life-size Santa figure in Oct!!!!!?