>>>>>>>The French vowels don't coincide with the English for the most part - and it's quite hard to map them, but I'm convinced that additional -j- doesn't exist in French, and doesn't help approximation either.
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>>>>>>I stiil don't see, or understand what J has to do with it now.
>>>>>>Cite which phonetic spelling of mine you're referring to.
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>>>>>"dew-pree" for one. The "dew-" is not the French "du-", where the u should be somewhere between an oo and an ee, it's a d yoo. Maybe you pronounce it without a j (y), or you pronounce it with one but don't even notice it. But people born in other languages do notice.
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>>>>I don't recall putting a "Y" in. If I did it was a FFFU. An anglo might say "Dyew-preh" (as in the morning dew)but I opine it's just "dew".
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>>>So you say you pronounce "doo" and "dew" identically?
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>>No, that's teh American way. I think we're at cross-purpose here; I was referring to how the phonetci spelling goes, but you've got me all confused with your talk of Serbian, and "j", and not citing what you referenced and general obscurity.
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>>Nyah, forgged abaadid
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>Um....not all Americans do that. Some of us actually do make a distinction between 'do' and 'dew', 'pin' and 'pen' etc
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Sure, just as some English, eg from Norfolk, as I've explained earlier in the thread, say "bootiful" and "noo" for "new" (people from Essex). Just as a southern drawl differs markedly from a New England nasal twang or NY "Top Cat" accent.

>and AFAIK, 'forgged abaadid' is pronounced as one word 'forgedabadid'

It's sad that there IS no consonent to represent the pronunciation of "t" here. It's very similar to how I, and my fellow Liverpudlians pronounce it - almost half-way between a "d/t" and an "r". I was also thinking of "Johnny Blue Eyes" and teh way posh Hugh Grant had comic trouble trying to say this in teh Mob's comapny.