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A Little Gun History
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06/01/2008 22:43:14
 
 
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06/01/2008 17:21:21
Dragan Nedeljkovich (En ligne)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
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Thread ID:
01279783
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I think you'd find a lot of the 'gun nuts' in the US would not have a problem with the kind of system of registration and responsibility you describe. I have no problem whatsoever with registering my guns and being required to have a permit to carry. Good law. Distinguishes between those who plan to use their guns lawfully and those who don't. You can't get rid of privately owned guns in a culture like ours, but you sure can make life miserable for those who use them criminally.

Arm good guys, jail bad guys. Not rocket science.


>>This is everywhere on the internet, so I won't posting a link. It seems to resurface every now and then and right now it is being passed around again. I did try to look at stats to validate any of it but it appears that stats are twisted for both sides so I posted some of the links at the end. It would be nice if someone out there would take the time to truly address each item.
>>
>>In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953,
>>about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
>>and exterminated.

>
>And if they had guns, they would go with a bang? They WERE NOT ROUNDED UP. They were taken one by one, or in small groups, and I'm almost positive some of them did have guns. But then, those coming to arrest them had vehicles, at least someone with a machine gun, and were never coming alone.
>
>>Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
>>13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
>>rounded up and exterminated.
>
>I am surprised. Which others?
>
>To add to this story, in the Yugoslav wars we had another country which had gun control since forever. It worked Swiss-style - there was a lot of weapons nearby, according to the defense doctrine of armed people. Any other weapons were under control - you could keep them at home, you could have a license to carry concealed, but they had to be registered. And when a cop was shot, you had to submit your piece for "technical check", i.e. the ballistics.
>
>But when the war happened, everybody had weapons, because the gun control simply vanished. Those who were supposed to control them were videotaping the smugglers and played the tapes on state TV as a pretext to go to war - and did nothing to break the smuggling chain or to arrest the smugglers. And those controlled public-property collective defense pieces were finding their way into various groups' hands, too.
>
>You can't blame the gun control when it is just revoked.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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