FWIW, Bill Gates just gave one of his final speeches as a MS employee. He says that installed apps on PCs are "yesterday" and that the future is internet apps accessed via personal devices with no keyboard. He also says that people won't know or care where or how their "data" is stored. Yeah VFP could have been a player in this new world, but imagine how VFP's easy/cheap delivery of fat client apps on multiple versions of Windows plus VFP's detailed data focus supported by a defiant developer community must look to a MS executive reviewing the future according to MS. Perhaps we're lucky it made it all the way to VFP9.