>regardless of these sources, there seems a tendency here that people are rejecting the sources as credible if they say anyting they refuse to beleive, and are in a counter argument throwing in other non-credible sources. So if you refuse to want to believe those resource, I guess you'll have to do your own research in a manner that is unbiased. But again, if your trying to find resources saying the opposite, you'll find them, but that does not make it unbiased.
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>Personally I find most of the resources above reliable anyways. YMMV



I wouldn't have expected anything different from you. Its like going to MoveOn.org looking for statistics on the republican party or the atheist part headquarters for stats on catechism. Its a biased site, therefore any statistics will have a biased slant -- same for the links you provided. If there is a study by the dept of corrections that says, nationwide, it cost us xxxx$ to kill someone, that would be more believable.