>>Apple is the only one that's made itself relevant going into the future.
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>I remember going to Apple user group meetings in Cupertino in the late 70s when both Steves would show up and the incredible difference that was apparent in them. Woz was the technical brains behind it. At MS that would have meant having him run the company instead of do what he knew how to do <g> Jobs, on the other hand, I think increased his value to Apple as he focused more closely on business and evangelism, where his gifts seem to lie. Kind of th opposite journey of a lot of MS people.

We may well have been at the same meetings! Yes, Woz was the innovator and Jobs the BS artist. Did you ever attend the S 100 Bus meetings? I attended both.