>>Hi Bruce ---
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>>>>What particular troubles you got? So far, presonally, I didn't see them.
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>>>I had sometimes the toolbar becoming randomly undocked...I also had trouble getting the activex statusbar (which is inside a toolbar) to work without the formset...
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>>The only type of toolbar I've ever wanted *in* a form are the "cool bar" type, which I have faked with invisible buttons, BMPs, et al. I have never been able to get a toolbar to behave exactly as I wanted it to in one respect or another and just decided, long ago, to reserve them to application level constructs.
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>Currently, I develop app with 5 toolbars (all in top-level form) and they behave just fine. Top-level form is actually not a form, it's a base of interface (DE+generic methods+links to module objects).

That sounds kind of like the same thing I do with a top-level formset? I've had no troubles since I add the toolbars to the formset, then use them in top-level form...