>Again, so wrong. So taking the argument that the police cannot be trusted to carry guns. If so, something should be about that, instead of giving guns to the citizens

By what method do you propose to extract the gun from the police officer should he chose to keep it despite your request to disarm him?

initiating the use of force is immoral and more than that it is anti human...
retaliatory use of force is ethical.. and sometimes heroic...

Dave.