>I don't recall a post stating that "guns make things safer". This is a generalization of yours. I have read posts from pro-gun members (who are presumably trained in the use of their weapons) stating that they can use guns to defend themselves, something which I can fully agree with. I have friends who I suspect would make short work of any would be attacker who tried to hurt them or their families.

just google http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=guns+makes+society+safer&btnG=Search

And you'll see what I mean. Those arguments are not alien on this forum.