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08/10/2008 10:45:27
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>>>major snip
>>>
>>>> There has been almost no true investigation into his past and his relationships nor media attention...
>>>How do we know?
>>>
>>>Granted, the "liberal media" has not reported anything negative about Obama. However, I suspect that FOX has spent considerable resources investigating Obama. They either have found nothing to report, or they are waiting for the "perfect time".
>>
>>Standby for news. . . . You can bet there will be more reporting on Obama. Even CNN is starting to say Obama lied about his relationship with Ayers.
>>
>>As to a point you so casually threw out earlier, McCain was cleared in the Keating 5 scandal, by none other, than Robert Bennett. He was a clinton attack dog, as I recall, and he says he investigated McCain for 1.5 years and he tried to get the Ds to drop him from the investigation, because he had done nothing wrong. I believe he also said something along the lines of , "I don't agree with him on many issues, but I do believe John McCain is an honest man."
>
>But the issue with Obama and Ayres is "guilt by association".
>
>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
>
>"McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981,[11] and McCain was the only one of the five with close social and personal ties to Keating.[37][38] Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent as he lived in Arizona.[30] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.[39] In addition, McCain's wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard Keating's jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.[7][40] "
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>THAT is an association.

Even so, unlike Obama, McCain repudiated that association, and spent the rest of his career battling such "associations". It's called learning from your mistakes, which McCain freely admits this was. Obama NEVER admits to anything, including his much longer association with Ayers and many other underworld thugs. He even tries to say Ayers was just another guy in the neighborhood, when he knows that is a lie. He held his "assumption" party at Ayers home, and he was in partnership with Ayers in fund raising, and he benefitted many years from the association, yet he never repudiated the relationship, nor the man. The man who was involved in killing innocent American civilians. Even, jaded Geraldine Ferraro, says Ayers should not be allowed to teach in our universities. I think he should not be allowed to draw our air.

Here's a little snippet you forgot to read in the wiki:
On September 10, 1990, Bennett submitted a confidential report, which soon leaked, that recommended that the committee continue its investigation of Cranston, DeConcini, and Riegle, but take no action against Glenn and McCain,[26] as there was insufficient evidence to pursue the latter two.[44] Bennett also recommended that public hearings be held.[25]

Speculation that this would be the decision had already taken place, and both Glenn and McCain were frustrated that the long delay in resolving their cases was damaging their reputations.

The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[50][49] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf.[7] The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."[53] On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[7]

Regardless of the level of their involvement, both senators were greatly affected by it. McCain would write in 2002 that attending the two April 1987 meetings was "the worst mistake of my life".[54] Glenn has described the Senate Ethics Committee investigation as the low point of his life.[8]
John Harvey
Shelbynet.com

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