>>>>>>>>http://www.agnosticaanyc.org/worldwide.html
>>>>>>>>http://www.sobercircle.com/blogs/user/Athiest-Agnostic-AA-Meeting-Update-44228/
>>>>>>>>There are some in Chicago.
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>>>>>>>>While I am glad that you chose something, in fact ANY group to join and you actually attend meetings, I find it amazing that although I have provided you numerous links in the past in emails and here online to non-religious groups, you chose the one group to join that you could argue against based on your non-religious beliefs. Then you use that argument as an excuse. THERE IS NO EXCUSE and yes, I meant the shouting.
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>>>>>>>>See a problem there Mike?
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>>>>>>>Show me one non-spiritual group and I will go. I have looked and have not found one in my area. AA seems to be the one stop answer.
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>>>>>>Did you check out the links?
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>>>>>Not yet.
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>>>>>Want to call me? I really liked your southern accent when you called me before. And what you said. All the guys here lusting after you, they're not wrong ;-)
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>>>>>The smart answer is to say no. I'm feeling very honest and open but I'm also drunk, still.
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>>>>Put the bottle down and grow up. Call the guy who wanted to be your sponsor Mike. Call him NOW.
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>>>You are so punitive. I don't respond well to that.
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>>>My almost-sponsor is gong through some stuff of his own. He first declined because, his words, he has been going to meetings for 18 years and has only been sober for one of them. He also has 4 broken vertebrae, which I have seen with my own eyes. (Well, no, I have not seen the vertebrae, just the limping).
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>>>I wish AA approved different sex sponsors. I am much more open with women.
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>>I new someone that pulled that off once...but he has homosexual so perhaps that had something to do with it.
>>If they guy has 18 years of meetings and 1 year of soberness perhaps there is a better sponser out there for you. Seems like if you showed up at a meeting or even called one of the AA groups someone could hook ya up with a temporary sponser. If nothing else it would help get ya over the hump....
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>The group leader has offered to be my temporary sponsor and four guys have offered to be my real sponsor. I told one I would, then got cold feet because it was buying into the whole program. He said we need to get together tomorrow and start working the steps. Like it was a math problem I hadn't been able to work out. I'm just not there yet.
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>That's funny about a homosexual with a female sponsor. Almost sounds like a sitcom, doesn't it?
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>It is the next morning now and I am no longer drunk. I started rereading this thread and then stopped. I don't like the person I am when I drink. Melodramatic, angry, self-pitying. What a loser. One thing I hear over and over at AA is how different people were when they were drunk. In many cases they have been sober for years and it's hard for me to picture the person they describe. I want what they have. I want to be sober all the time, not just getting better.
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>Thanks to all for your comments. And another apology to Tracy.

I think reading the thread in its entirety and coming to terms with who you are when you are drinking is a good thing Mike. As you know, I have a history of alcoholism in my family so I have no tolerence for it period. I did the al-anon when I was a younger, not much older than your girls. I don't do 'nice' and 'supportive' when it comes to drinking. I will tell you how it is and I will do it honestly and bluntly. Just start over TODAY right now and STAY SOBER. Today is the FIRST DAY. The Mike online who is sober is nothing like the Mike who has been drinking.

GET TO A MEETING TODAY. GET A SPONSOR.

I will not apologize for yelling. Don't apologize to me. JUST STAY SOBER today.