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Kevin Goff has been (unfairly?) Banned - Week Two
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From
15/01/2009 14:10:35
Walter Meester
HoogkarspelNetherlands
 
 
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15/01/2009 07:53:42
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>>>>>>>>>>Facts != Truth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hmm. So something can be a fact but not true?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A set of facts, each individually true, may not sum up to the "truth".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can you give an example ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fact: Israel has been bombing the Gaza
>>>>>>Fact: Those bombs have killed children
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What's the truth: Israel is a country of monsters who bomb the Gaza in order to kill children?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unless you have all the facts (and whoever does?), the facts you have don't necessarily add up to 'truth'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israel is not out to kill children. They just don't care if they do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just in case you're wondering, I am not anti-semetic. But I really dislike the Israeli state. They seem to feel a need to keep the world temperature just below a boil. Which gives them yet something more in common with the Arab nations.
>>>>>
>>>>>IMO it's an open question which nuclear war occurs first, Israel vs. Arabs or Pakistan vs. India.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I sometimes wonder whether it shuold be best to evacuate whole of israel and the occupied areas and nuke it in such way that no-one could live there for 200 years. Then the rest of the middle east can create wars amongst themselves.
>>>
>>>Evacuate them all to where?
>>
>>Holland!
>
>Given that the Jews were expelled from Holland in the 1400s and the 1500s, I doubt that would be acceptable.

The Netherlands did not exists at that time yet. It was a collection of little kingdoms that were fighting eachother and occasionally were totally run over by other countries (e.g. Romans, Germans, French and Spanish). Most jews never reached Holland at that time (The western part of the current Netherlands). Jews we expelled in large parts of europe because of the cathlic church (blaming the jews for the death of christ) and the spanish inquisition. Yeah, I know, religion is great ....

So if that were the case, it would be acceptable to host them in much of western europe. Still there are still living quite a few jews up here.

>Of course, we have our own history of not willingly accepting Jews here too. Not quite the same, but General Grant was behind that in the 1860s restricting them from being anywhere near the Tennessee military.
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