>Where did you get that one from ?? This is not what we experience here.

Danish cartoonists, French police who have to deal with car burnings in les banlieues, Theo VanGogh, victims of bombings in Madrid and London etc may not think i am hallucinating.

Are you saying unassimilated populations from countries that have very different ideas of the role of the individual in a secular society are not a problem for European society today, that their reproductive rate and the negative birthrate of native Europeans and very little control over immigration doesn't create a problem - especially in what are essentially welfare states? And that this problem isn't increasing at a geometric rate?

Or are you claiming that permitting the influx of non-Europeans into Europe is not driven by the desire of European capitalists for cheap labor?

I certainly know a lot of Britains and Europeans who share this view.



>>>I must be misunderstanding you. It sounds like you are saying the Dutch have been stained by allowing Muslim immigrants. If that is what you meant, how is it any different from what the Nazis said in the 1930s?
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>>Not at all. I am saying that relatively homogeneous societies invite a radical change of their culture if they try to absorb large number of people with no intention to assimilate. Assimilation is very powerful for both sides. Otherwise, you have a situation like the African immigrants to France. It has nothing to do with who the immigrants are, only with their attitudes about their host. If you move to Britain to become your unique flavor of British, everyone wins (look at the Indian immigrants) If you move to Britain to change Britain to match the place you a leaving, you a simply another kind of invader.
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>>The EU in general has adopted an immigration policy - for purely cheap labor reasons - that is going to have a very high social cost and I don't know how European values are going to be reconciled with a large and growing minority that has complete contempt for those values.
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>Where did you get that one from ?? This is not what we experience here.