>I take your point too: if eT goes straight to IL we don't get the chance to review the C# equivalent to learn something from ET's code (or provide C# to customers who want it.) Whereas with NOLOH you get php scripts from which you can learn and which have to be supplied to customers. I'll raise this in the user group. If I understand ET's methodology correctly, they may be able to yield C# instead of IL. Of course you can decompile IL to C# but eT has already said that they effectively obfuscate variable names, meaning the C# would not be much fun. ;-)

John --

I have a question about NOLOH. I looked at their site and was impressed by many of the things the system does. It appears to be at a very early stage of development, however. For example, creating UI you need to code screen controls' X/Y coordinates manually. This reminds me of dBase II <g> I see that they have visual designer UI on the improvements list, but at least to me this is a show stopper until there is a modern visual design interface like .NET or (gulp!) even VFP.

The hello world demo with the moving "click me" -button is kinda cute, but it leaves me wondering if this is the most advanced thing NOLOH people can come up with at this point.

The idea of coding PHP without actually coding PHP is an intriguing one, though, and holds a lot of promise...