I know not all of them are, but the whole brawl deal that happened at a football game a few years ago was ridiculous. The commentator (I don't remember his name) got fired because he was a Miami alum and said he was ready to go down on the field to represent. There was an impression in the Miami fanbase that they were proud that their players would "stand their ground" even if it meant getting into a brawl at a game. It's too bad because from what I could tell Larry Coker was a good coach.

And I am speaking softly because of the legal problems in Iowa's program over the past 2-3 years. Pierre Pierce was the name of the player you mention. He had some problems originally (I think it was a sexual assault, but I don't remember for sure) and was given a second chance by Alford. The fanbase was overwhelmingly enraged by the second chance. We were right, too, because he assaulted another woman a few years later. It's sad because he would be playing in the NBA right now.

>Oh, OK. I was not saying TOSU is the worst program in the country. All the big time programs seem to tiptoe the line between legal and illegal recruiting, and have players who get in scrapes. (Wasn't there a basketball player from Chicago who got kicked off the Iowa team when Steve Alford was head coach, after more than one legal issue?) It's not surprising that a team that recruits heavily in south Florida has more than its share of thugs. And not all of them are. Greg Olson of the Bears played college ball at Miami and seems like a pretty good citizen.