>>>I'm one of those lefty liberals who is dead set against torture, but honestly, the 'Facial Grasp'? The 'Insect in a confinement box'? These are tortures? I kind of had something different in mind.
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>>Okey, describe, what are these? How can these are legal?
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>The idea is that the worst forms of torture are avoided (at least officially). (Personally I find these "lesser tortures" bad enough - enough to still be called tortures. But I have to agree that worse things have been done.)

American citizens even don't talk with officers without lawyers. They're have these rights but other poor trash people don't have rights...