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24/04/2009 12:14:33
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
 
 
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Finances
Catégorie:
Budjet
Titre:
Divers
Thread ID:
01393480
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I suspect that any time you hear the word 'freedom', it immediately evokes to you images of crazy-eyed people shooting their neighbours.

I'm saying that complex society requires a system of laws. To succeed, we all need to sacrifice the concept of absolute "freedom" for the greater good. In exchange we receive multiple benefits. Stopping at red signals is an example where we willingly sacrifice our absolute freedom to proceed, for the greater good. This is the discussion into which you have burst with Nazi slogans and accusations.

Do you imply that majority can get their voice heard only through revolutions/coups?

If we're still talking about acceptance of the system of law itself, then yes. If rejection of the system (rather than a particular party or individual) becomes widespread then the system is no longer responding to the greater good, meaning it deserves to be overturned.

I can just suggest to you that expressing your views on public forum you are inevitably subjected to others evaluation, and when someone walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck, then how 'the intended meaning' can change it?

You've created an image in your mind of how I walk, talk and look? And that entitles you to ignore intended meaning in an online forum? OK, I get it.

As I said, I'm happy to have a normal discussion in which people consider and respond to others' points rather than trying to create straw-man (straw-duck?) positions to shoot down. See ya.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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