>Your position is in support of tyrannical control over freedom and represents the exact opposite of the principals this country was founded on.
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>Are you serious? The Founding Fathers understood very well that a successful society is built on mutual efforts with an element of give and take. If everybody focuses on their own absolute sovereignty, it's anarchy and we know where that goes. People who espouse absolute sovereignty are relying on the continued civic-spiritedness of others.

You've mentioned 'absolute freedom' and 'absolute sovereignty' multiple times in this thread. Who is advocating this straw man you are repeatedly smiting?

If one car refuses to obey traffic lights, I approve of government taking ownership of that car.

With this statement you've supported the State seizure of private property for a traffic violation. That is but one form of overbearing governmental control that this nation's founders specifically wrote the Constitution to protect the citizenry from.

>"Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither"
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>You're saying that you drive through red signals, ignore the police and don't pay your taxes? Or is this slogan about something else entirely?

The quote was a direct response to this:
That creates more safety and freedom for all the other cars.

Perhaps you <snip> too much. ;)