>>Uh, excuse me but I beg to differ. I'm a pretty decent programmer, but I don't think I'm as good as the guys putting out the frameworks. I'd say they all pretty much fall within the top 5% of VFP programmers. If that's the case, then it only makes sense that one purchase one of their packages to make their own apps that much better.
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>I would say that is true for the most part. If you have special needs that aren't addressed by a general framework, you might spend more time trying to find work-arounds with the commercial framework that could be easily solved with a specialized custom framework. I will admit though that this is probably the exception.

None of the projects I've been have decided to keep a third party framework because of the tremendous overhead. One thing you'll always hear from clients is that they do things just a little bit differently from the rest of the civilized world. So in my case, I must either be pretty good at finding jobs with the exceptions or the exception seems to be the rule.

>Definitely, the VFP developers that make the frameworks are hot-shots.

Not really, if they're hot shots, why don't I see any high level frameworks out there for sale? None of the frameworks I've heard about or the ones I've seen would be a good one to use for developing a large 10+ meg exe with a massive database.