The Sox finally winning it all in 2004 has lost some of its luster with revelations that a lot of them were gooned on juice. Ramirez and Ortiz for sure and I suspect some others as well.

News flash - MANY were juiced. That doesn't make it right - it was wrong - but the notion that the Red Sox victory was tained is ridiculous.

As for Ramirez, there's no question he was juiced - as for Ortiz, I wish this goddamn committee would just release the list of the 104 names and what they tested positive for. While I think athletes are morons for getting caught because the supplements or over the counter stuff had something they didn't realize, there IS a difference between that and actively seeking steroids.