>>>>>>>>>>For me its a red herring. The state should never kill .
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>>>>>>>>>I agree with that...and I think more Americans are believing that each year.
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>>>>>>>>I don't know about that. There is an anger level in this country that is just below the boiling point.
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>>>>>>>>Here is the paradox I don't get. A death sentence essentially says you have done the most unforgivable thing you can do, which is take a human life. And for that we are going to kill you.
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>>>>>>>Seems pretty clear. Object lesson, punishment and prophylaxis - not to mention if done properly ( i.e in a very timely fashion) much cheaper than room and board forever.
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>>>>>>Cheaper is true. But studies show capital punishment is not a deterrent.
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>>>>>>Have you been following the case in Texas?
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>>>>>Captial punishment is not a deterrent because the criminals sit on death row for 20+ years, at taxpayer expense, with all the
>>>>>amenities of a modern 5 start hotel. Why would a career criminal care if they were put on death row? They're going to die of old
>>>>>age anyhow. Most prisons rival health clubs with TV's, weight rooms, handball and basketball courts, etc. Prison is most certainly
>>>>>not a deterrent when life in the inside is better than life on the outside.
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>>>>>IMO, If a person is convicted of a captial crime and sentenced to die, they should get an automatic appeal. That appeal should happen
>>>>>within 6 months to a year. If the verdict is upheld, they should be executed that day.
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>>>>>The crime rate would drop overnight, as would prison overcrowding and the costs of incarcerating them.
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>>>>There are so many flaws with your line of thinking here I don't even know where to start - but making a long story short, you're wrong.
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>>>Japan and Saudi Arabia have strict laws along these lines. I know, I've been to both countries. Their crime rates are very low. Are they wrong too?
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>>Yes. The reason their crime rates are so low is because the police force over there isn't like ours. Here, if you call the cops, they actually show up, and there are a lot of them and it costs more to bribe them. America has the highest rate of incarceration of ANY country in the WORLD. The reasons are that our police and courts are more effective here. Furthermore if you do some research here you'll find that statistics prove that when you put the death sentence in place in a state in the US, that it has zero effect on the murder rate - and in some cases (such as Texas), the murder rate actually increased! So yes, you're wrong.
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>LOL. Thanks for showing me th error of my ways. Having spent a year each in both Japan and Saudi, come to think of it, you're right, the police never showed up, and when they did. they were bribed into looking the other way. You're right. I'm wrong.

Well, glad to of helped..hahaha. I think you're missing the point. The point is that stiffer punishments DO NOT deter crime, at least in this country. Now if you wanted to go the cruel-and-unusual route and toss out the bill of rights then perhaps it would make a difference. You don't actually think the USA simply has more criminals than anywhere else do you?