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>>But what happens if you need this same society when you really need it?
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>When exactly do you "really need it?" I've gone through this discussion before and have determined that there is a huge disparity of opinion about self sustaining lifestyles between urban and rural dwellers. I was raised to take care of myself and my family without modern convieniences. If the world gets hit with a galactic EMP tomorrow and we live through it I have no doubt I'll be able to survive.
Jake - I don't know if you read fiction or if you are familiar with S.M.Stirling but if you have not read "Dies the Fire" you might find it (and the next 5 or 6 so far in the series) to be a real treat
http://www.amazon.com/Dies-Fire-S-M-Stirling/dp/0451460413/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258063885&sr=8-1
Charles Hankey
Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy
Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.
-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin
Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
