>>>>ok, only close one would be hyvan = animal
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>>>A small correction, not hyvan; hayvan. If you're a villager (expecially from east Turkey), you probably say heyvan... :))
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>>Tabii - I spell very badly in English, but there is no excuse in Turkish, where the spelling is completely logical ;-)
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>>As I was writing "at" I remembered the story of the "demir kir at" and before I knew Turkish my friend Cem telling me about Demirel's new party ( about 1962? ) using the symbol of the iron grey horse to appeal to the Menderes supporters. One of my favorite political stories.
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>fortunately we got rid demirel at last. i hate him.
Yes, i thought he would be a little too far sag for you :-) ( and certainly for most of my friends )
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