Hi,

As I have said before, criminal charges need to be laid for this current Ponzi scheme.

Unmassaged Empirically derived data is the only way of checking your theory/model, these days if the data doesn't fit your model, you just massage the data until it does, gee I don't know why I hadn't thought of that years ago, I could have save so much time on some of my research.

Yeh it doesn't matter whether the device works or not, just whether the data fits the model.

The big boys are on to a right good earner with this, just buy land and sit back and watch the money come in.

And you know what is crazy, the poor uninformed punter doesn't realize that it is he who will be paying for this Ponzi scheme.

>>Mike,
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>> I think you should have an unbias good hard look at the following:
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>>1. The following link shows ACTUAL unmanipulated/massaged data in its graphs, note the variance in the solar luminance plot, with plot line following the median of the data http://www.iceagenow.com/Looming_Threat_of_Global_Cooling.htm
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>>2. If earth is experiencing Man Made Global warming, then why is Mars experiencing the same, is it Martian Made Mars Warming (MMMW).
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>>I started out on your side of the fence, but have migrated to other side (the Dark Side from your point of view) after having a good hard look at the data and also seeing how the data that has been around for some time being manipulated/altered by the IPCC to suit their point of view.
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>>You are entitled to your opinion, but make sure the data you are basing your opinion on is correct.
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>The whole idea of "scientific consensus" is ridiculous. The IPCC (or was it the guys in East Anglia) have been sending requests for endorsement to fellow scientists around the community. That's lobbying and asking for a vote, no less - pure politics. This is not psychiatry, where they vote for new imaginary diseases to include in the official list, this is meteorology, all measurable. Use your model on the data up to 2000 to predict the weather in the next 10 years, then check how did you do, that's science. Popularity contest is not science. BTW, what happened to ozone holes, gone out of fashion?
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>This cap & trade thing that's down the pipe promises to be the largest imaginary production line ever, better than the indulgences trade in Martin Luther's time. The big guys (including Bush family, so I heard) are already buying large swaths of forest in South America, where the carbon tax money will land; OTOH, other big guys (I heard Gore, Rotschild and/or Rockefeller being mentioned) are already setting banks in Switzerland where the carbon tax money will pass. Carbon tax is perfect, you don't have to produce anything, do no service whatsoever, just own some land where you do nothing - classified as forest - and you reap the benefits.
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>I should congratulate this, as I own a few acres of forest, but somehow I think this is the scam of the century. And they need everyone on board with spherical warming to sell this scam, so it's being pushed everywhere - through the UN, governments, parliaments, NGOs and anyone who jumps in hoping to make a quick buck.