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>>Tracy/Kevin, this is called figurative speech. It is hard to believe you are incapable of reading between these (rather simple) lines.
>>Debating it word for word does not make any sense. What Nick says is nothing out of ordinary. If you 'decode' it, It is opinion shared by many many people. (War being totally inaproppriate/ineffective)
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>>Fox-News in itself became almost metaphor for completely twisted and sometime plain crazy war-mongering mindset
>>which was almost prevalent in years following 9/11.
>>Sad thing is that many people bought into it. If Fox-News was watched and that opinion set followed by 1-2% of population
>>that would be say understandable. Anything above that is worrying/dangerous situation.
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>>Watch first 10 minutes of this video, and before your mind slips into knee-jerk reaction towards debunking yet another conspiracy theory of mine {g}, try to focus only on media/politicians handling of 9/11 events.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek7ZHenQnu4>>
>>(Can't help myself {g})
>>Whatever happened to those multistorey deep (yet undetectable!) underground Al-Qaeda bunkers that Rumsfeld was talking about ?
>>(Rumsfeld:
It is not one! It is MANY OF THOSE !!! )
>>Well... where are they ??? They must be in Iraq then, all together with Saddam's WMDs {g}
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>>Irony aside;
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>>It has been what... 9 years now that US/UK invaded Afganistan. What is the actual result besides millions of dead/displaced ?
>>(+ US being nearly bankrupt) . Original article/thread title comes to mind as well.
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>>Is anybody in the world safer as result of this ?
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>The video was 9:41 so I couldn't watch the first 10 minutes :o)
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>While I agree that media will grab onto any info it can get - even if just rumors - I have to wonder at your ability to believe this video.
It does appear to me that you believe the same propaganda that comes from the media - only from different sources.
Why do you say I believe in this video ? What different does it make what do I believe ??
I might or might not believe in parts or all of it, but documentary in itself stands to be watched and judged by whoever
decides to watch it. I pointed out to fist part of the video because I would say very clearly depicts media/politicians
mishandling of the events and leading public towards predetermined 'suspect'
Some months after, US invaded Afganistan.
>> I cannot tell you how, but I KNOW Al Qaeda exists (as do many other groups with the same or similar or even worse goals) so to me it is just another form of propaganda. I did watch the entire video though.
There was also one by BBC as well. Did you see that one ?
>>As to Osama Bin Laden himself, he is a monster that the U.S. used when it suit the U.S. and now is paying the price for it. If you want some really interesting information, look at the Clinton administration and Osama Bin Laden. Regardless, whether you call one group Al Qaeda or pin down each group (who at times work together when it suits their purpose) by each of their individual names, it doesn't change the fact that terrorism exists and the western world is its victim today. Was Al Qaeda responsible for 9-11 or any of the terrorist acts? If not who was?
Nobody knows. It could have been anyone. But that is not the point. Point is that there was no proper investigation but rather
'leading of the withness' kind of situation with public, which was already shocked and traumatized by events.
If whole event was properly investigated they might have fount perpetrators by now.
>>If you believe that the U.S. is behind all of it, then you a victim of propaganda yourself.
Whose propaganda ? And who is the victim ?? ;)
What I am victim of, is a subtle insult, but will forgive it to you outright {g}
How would you feel If I accused you of of believing 100% in official story ? ;0)
There are lot of conspiracy theories out there (and lot of it is indeed cheap propaganda) but there are
are also some credible studies that rise some serious questions. Besides we all got eyes and brains
and some things simply do not add up. Only thing I do know, is that I do NOT believe in official 9/11 report.
Thanks God we have 'democracy' nowadays. If we were living in the time of Spanish Inquisition, the way the public is
geared/steared on 9/11 questions/debate, this would be probably unforgivable heresy punishable by death. {g}
>>The truth is probably more scary than either of us can imagine.
Here we unfortunately agree.
