Hey John,

>Hey Paul, I'm with you buddy! <snip> I agree we need to use Bill's model for >defeating the others - embrace and conquer!< G >

Better watch, Justice might be reading this thread. <g>

>Actually, VB's got some things I like and I've even seen an Access widget or >two that I liked (of course I wouldn't use it for anything substantial.) >However, if that's what someone wants there app written in, why not? I >usually show them some sample forms written in each and then let them pick >their poison. They ALWAYS choose Fox.

JVP has a real convert in me. That COM stuff has made my life a whole lot easier. Now I need to start using ADO more. Done it in some web pages but haven't in VFP.

>Another thing I've started doing is surfing the Access news groups and >answering threads regarding size and performance issues with - MS has a >wonderful product that can handle fairly large datasets with relative ease, >and you don't have to pay for licenses.

Everytime I spend more than fifteen minutes with an Access person, they ask where they can get a copy of VFP. Now, if we can get somebody to do the same in the VB groups. Go JVP!!

Paul