>>>>>>>>I'm fairly sure when I mentioned Herman Cain on here some months ago none of you US types had ever heard of him. He was touted on the BBC as a possible candidate. Maybe you should all stop listening to Fox and try some real news.
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>>>>>>>>I've known "of" him for several years, but heard more recently in the last year and a half when he started speaking at more Tea Party events.
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>>>>>>>>BTW Mikes token black comment was poor.
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>>>>>>>>Yes, it was....as are the attempts by another forum member to give it some credibility, which gives Mike a backdoor exit by saying, "yeah, that's what I meant".
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>>>>>>>I think it was a harmless statement that you decided to take the wrong way because apparently what USED to be a nice place for all us developers to hang out has turned into nothing but a bunch of bickering jackasses. I for one am sick of it.
>>>>>>>GROW THE HELL UP EVERYONE. damn!
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>>>>>>Chatter politics section !
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>>>>>yeah fine but all the personal attacks make me want to find a new website. I showed a new VFP developer this website and they spent a few days out here and never came back because of this crap.
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>>>>Where they part of some lost society where nobody was every rude ?
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>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
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>>>They come from an alternate universe where there are "new VFP developers". <s>
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>>Primary function is a SQL DBA but he inherited a VB6 app and a VFP7 app with a new job & doesn't know VFP
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>Shouldn't be an impediment. <s> I'm currently doing project rescue on a pretty major VFP app, VFP using VFE framework. All code in presentation layer, mostly in click of buttons ( which call click of other buttons etc ) Data loaded with remote views from SQL, but then copied to local FP cursors and ..., wait for it ... copied to control's value fields one field at a time. Thousands of lines of code copying the code back to the fp cursors, and trying to keep all that in sync - then on save building SPT statements. That's right - NO DATA BINDING.
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>First VFP work I've done in 3 years so it is kind of fun. Good news is, it is in VFE and I have been given full brief to tear everything out and fix the plumbing. Actually a good gig,

Wow. I ran across one like that a few years ago - I got rid of the cursors and SPT statements and then data-bind the remote views....heck I wonder if it was written by the same guy. Anyway it actually does sound like a good gig though.