>>>>>Most of us even on the "left" are reasonably rational
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>>>>>That is certainly open to debate <s>. In my experience, liberals tend toward emotional arguments while conservatives tend toward factual arguments.
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>>>>But I am not a liberal, Marcia my dear <g>. Only by the definition of some conservatives.
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>>>I almost spit my coke all over my monitors. You are joking, right? By the pure definition of Obama's liberalism, you're right there, buddy....
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>>Please provide the "pure definition of Obama's liberalism" and then we can discuss it.
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>Big Government, Trillion dollar bailouts, Government is the be all and end all., you can't manage your life, so we'll do it for you....
>Handouts to everyone with no responsibility attached, political correctness mandatory, emotional responses to fact, etc.

"Etc". -- the last resort of the argumentally challenged.

For the last time I will point this out, the so-called bailout was done during the Bush administration. Obama supported it, as I did. That was the biggest economic crisis of our lifetimes and it prevented a bad situation from becoming worse.

I mention only in passing that all the government support money, including interest, was repaid and actually turned a profit. You can look it up.

Let's see you live in a world with no government. You wouldn't like it.