Hi Thomas

>>Will Lianja have something like session object ? If they did not do it yet please try to talk them into it :)
>>Since they seem to be responsive to community input I certainly hope they can come with something like this.
>
>from the docs, no. OTOH, _Screen.Caption works and is also not in the docs....
>(Chin fell a bit when that particular vfp mode of operation worked after scanning the docs for a Lianja way...)
>Hop on over, download the stable beta (fast 86MB DL,
>easy install already done a couple of times breaking nothing else here)
>test and file an enhancement request or vfp compatibility ticket.

Will do. Need to get one free server machine to start really playing with it.

>I ran across Chartran() working differently in Refresh 8, wrote a couple of lines
>why Chartran() working bytewise and fast is important for data cleaning and needed -
>it is implemented in the vfp way in the Refresh 9 I am currently testing.
>Similar with couple of bugs I found. And there are bugs - enhancing the compiler
>to allow vfp syntax and capabilities opened some holes. Find and let them fix those ;-)

>They ARE responsive, but they need the community to point out the benefits
>if you/they want to bump it up the fix-it-time ladder, as getting mobile clients ready
>IMO is the greater lure for future Lianja users. Speaking purely for myself,
>I will NOT try to talk them into implementing a specific feature unless I personally want it.
>And I think about what I want / need soonest always before writing -
>they don't have unlimited resources, even if they are responsive.

>Your english is good enough - try it out and make your wishes known.
>They answer in much more detail than the best contacts with vfp developer team I ever had -
>both from technical and biz POV. But yes, it is not as large as MS, so please adapt to that
>from your side as well. USE the chance to influence something yourself, don't be just a customer.

>Voicing only wishes (perhaps not even checking the software to see if it fits your needs)
>when not really contemplating to be a paying customer would be a disservice to them.
>(Hope I don't come on to strongly - I am somewhat miffed at the recline chair attitude of some
>of the developers, nothing aimed at you personally...)

You are absolutely right! Most of us are actually chair warriors when it comes to new technologies.
I am no exception to this. For most part I really do not have time, so I cherish every good input
from people (Like you and HankF) who do find time to do evaluation / exploration efforts as well.

>It is easy to say "my customers cannot bear this" arguing from previous biz model influenced by vfp cost structure
>but please try to get a feel for the new opportunities this stuff offers you in simple packages
>before trying to lower the price just to get vfp comparable economics. Sadly, vfp economics failed at MS side.

>It has not all vfp bells yet, but has already a couple of other bells much larger which already can play together.
>I see it as a vfp similar embedded engine including record navigation and SQL
>coupled with a framework spanning multiple OS and devices - something you would need to shell out
>for different products and perhaps a DB engine as well, unless using PostGreSQL.

I have no problem with pricing as I do not sell any software. What is important to me is how easy I can handle my requirements and how reliable it will be all together. Idea of having fully blown high-scale database (Recital) that is directly manipulated by language (Lianja platform) is very appealing to me. Imagine If M$ did this with VFP/MSSQL. It would have been freaking blast! :)

>Jump in, play with it - I do it mostly at the biz/db level, others at GUI -
>but give it the same chances you gave vfp when it steered away from known FP ways.

Will sure do.
Rgds++
Sergio