>A compelling UI is one that makes it easy for the user to do their job and does things in a standard manner.
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>For example, how long ago did Ctrl+Click and Shift+Click become standard for multi-select? I remember using them in Windows 3.x. I've used Java applications (first introduced in 1989 in this instance) until well into the 2000 to support this. This is just one example from that application, that thankfully I don't use any more. It must be because it's hard to do. Because if it was easy, it would have been in the application earlier.

>Why do so many Java applications have washed-out UI's. Lacking color and vibrancy? Battleship grey went out of style a long time ago. It must be hard to do it otherwise.

Why do people who refuse to look at modern UIs made in Java think they have any clue about what could be done with it.

Windows Forms must be defaulting to some color other than grey now?

No grey in VS.NET now I take it?

Is the background color what makes your UIs so compelling?

There is no grey in any of my Java apps, fwiw


>Microsoft has done some bonehead things along the same lines. I saw a prototype of VS2012, with it's flat, monochrome icons before it was released. I was in the room with the design team and I told them, "It looks like every Java application I've ever used. And that's not good."
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>>Tell us what makes your UIs compelling.
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>>Maybe the explanation is the same for every language, a poorly designed UI is poorly designed.
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>>Cant make a language specific case out of that ti support your FUD though.
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>>Must be why you choose to deny the obvious.
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>>>>Craig, I've done very little work with Java, but I do believe there are good Java UI frameworks and components out there. Back in 2004 JVP and I worked for a place that did some pretty slick work in Java with different frameworks. Some are surely better than others, but I'd be surprised if there weren't some good solution paths out there.