I haven't seen a "modern" UI in Java that is compelling. I'm saying that based on applications I've used, it must be DIFFICULT to do. If it were easy, you'd see it done more often.

>Why do people who refuse to look at modern UIs made in Java think they have any clue about what could be done with it.
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>Windows Forms must be defaulting to some color other than grey now?
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Now it's my turn. Click Previous a couple of times.

>No grey in VS.NET now I take it?
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It's color, usability, functionality, use of screen real estate vs. white space, good font choices, adherence to standards.

>Is the background color what makes your UIs so compelling?
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I haven't seen you Java apps. This is the last time I'm going to say this, "I HAVE USED *LOTS* OF JAVA APPLICATIONS AND HAVE YET TO SEE A COMPELLING UI. IT ISN'T THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE *EVER* IN *YEAR* OF USING THEM, IT TELLS ME IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO. IF IT WASN'T PEOPLE WOULD BE MAKING THE COMPELLING APPLICATIONS"

I have real work to get done. No more from me.

>There is no grey in any of my Java apps, fwiw