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04/10/2013 18:11:16
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
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I've been offline for a bit so I apologize for my delay in response.

>>>Picking a nit: The PPACA was signed into law in March of 2010, following a special election where it was THE issue and Scott Brown won.
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>People can't call it Obamacare and then refuse to link it to Obama.

I don't call it Obamacare, I use the acronym PPACA. Obama pushed the general idea of "reform" and left the details to the legislature. When stymied he used his political will to get "something" through. I'll give him credit for the push, but the PPACA itself is the sausage produced by the corporate-congressional, backroom, extra-constitutional (see Kevin's post regarding where taxes must originate) meat grinder.

>He was elected again after the bill cleared the House in 2009.

The bill that President Obama signed didn't pass the House in 2009. That bill died in the Senate with Scott Brown's election. The bill that was signed into law was passed first by the Senate in December 2009 and then by the House in March 2010.

>You may regard elections to the House as a signal, but voters do not call it Housecare. It's Obamacare. And the people did vote him in again.

As I've said many times before, the people voted for more of the same and they are getting what they asked for.

>Obamacare also has survived Supreme Court challenges, including the ones to which certain Republicans were connected.

Why do you use the plural "challenges"? While there are more on the way, only one case has as yet been decided by the Supreme Court and it was "upheld" in part as the mandate was changed to a tax and was struck down in part as it was deemed that states can opt-out of medicaid expansion.
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