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02/06/2014 18:31:05
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
 
 
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Health
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Titre:
Divers
Thread ID:
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Message ID:
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>>If what you say is true then the community also expects women to graduate from higher education with a serious debt load. If a woman has the drive, talents or assets (literally) to reduce that debt load, more power to her.

What about the prejudice that women in power got there by sleeping their way to the top. Generations of strong women battled those attitudes and now the good work risks being unraveled if women who should "get" these realities prefer to present their sex as a saleable item. We do need to watch out.

>>You can argue that an 18 year old isn't experienced enough to comprehend the consequences of her actions. But consider this: Suppose social networking and invasion of privacy merely stay at the same levels as today, and don't get any worse (ha ha). Also suppose 10 years from now her cohort is ready to become surgeons; in 20 years, politicians; in 30 years, judges. Our skeletons are (sometimes) in closets, theirs will be public. If you believe those professions must be public skeleton-free, there won't be anybody left to fill them.

Not sure where you got all this. There is a context in this thread about misogynist attitudes towards women, with two women observing that women face certain difficulties all the time. And now it appears that the main beneficiaries of decades of good work to change attitudes, risk undermining it all. Or at least some of them do and you can predict who gets all the attention. Of course we need to watch out- or at least those of us who like the idea that women deserve intellectual and career equality with men without being perceived as sexual playthings or available for rent, need to watch out. In particular we need to consider attitudes of young men if it's seen as normal for female classmates to earn $ or get ahead by lying on their backs.

>>Are you certain you can predict the future better than that 18 year old?

I don't agree that "we need to watch out" carries any of this stuff you're coming up with. I do feel sorry for the 18-year-old who committed suicide in real life after being hounded when previous classmates recognized her having sex with strangers on video in exchange for money. More power to her, you say? Others here might believe that they could have predicted the future better than her, but that's no use now either.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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