>>I'm going to take a guess you haven't studied the work of people like Stephen Hayes, A.B. Stoddard, and Catherine Herridge. They are periodic guests - and serious conservative intellectuals who don't resort to straw-man fallacies.

Herridge- yep, she I can respect for a number of reasons. And lets not forget Bolling who this year broke the compact by advocating a form of single-funder healthcare despite towing the party line re the ACA. I can't remember who it was who commented that Europeans may have free healthcare but can't afford new clothes- it'll come to me. Well worth following that intellectual to see what he will say next.

>>But I realize some people need to believe these scenarios you've described.

Well,the lookout on the Titanic believed he could see an iceberg. Shame it wasn't noticed a little sooner and the story of the Titanic could have been quite different.