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>>Seriously Kevin, listen to how some of your peers talk to or about the women around them.
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>OK, clearly you have been working in some bad environments, and I am truly sorry. I don't dispute for a minute that those work environments exist.
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>By coincidence, I found out last week that a former student of mine just sued her employer for sexual harassment and the details are really ugly. I hate it when adults can't act like adults.
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>Anyone who knows me knows that I pay close attention to how people interact with others. It's really just a personal hobby - I like to sit back and watch people talk to (or at) each other. I've seen men act in a patronizing manner towards women, and I've seen women do the same to men and to other women.
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>When I broke into the industry in 1987 and 1988 I ran into a few managers who didn't like me at all and tried to influence others into thinking I was (essentially) just an inexperienced punk. Ran into other forms of bigoted thinking later. It sucks. But there's only one way to fight them - prove 'em wrong.
But here's the kicker, Kevin,
you can 'fight them' and not get labelled as 'b!tch', 'pushy', 'mouthy', 'acting like a man', 'bulldyke', 'cocky' (that was one of my favs) and all because you have a dangly and not floppies. Now, they might call you a PITA, or 'inexperienced punk' and, trust me, I'd take those titles over many I've been called.
"You don't manage people. You manage things - people you lead" Adm. Grace Hopper
Pflugerville, between a Rock and a Weird Place