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>>Maybe the type of person that feels down about themselves and wants to drink to feel better, doesn't need your finger in their face telling them to live up to standards typically reserved for Saints (who still drink wine with little bits of crackers).
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>Mike, I'm actually amazed. JR's tone with Mike Beane up here has always been one of gently placating/assuaging, and you're characterizing JR as being self-righteous on the subject. JR isn't telling Mike Beane (or anyone else) to live like a choir boy. But there's nothing wrong with having some expectations of one's self and others.
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>On the topic of feeling down - drinking won't solve it. It just moves the goalposts/alters reality temporarily.

Nope. Solves the problem permanetly. It's only a matter of how much / how long.