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Belgium Muslim population
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From
28/03/2016 17:37:22
Lutz Scheffler
Lutz Scheffler Software Ingenieurbüro
Dresden, Germany
 
 
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28/03/2016 16:43:57
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
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>>>My scenario proofs nothing or give fina explanation - it's just to give you an alternate POV.
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>Likewise. A scenario was presented, you present an alternative. My POV is that neither deserves to be accepted uncritically.
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>>>Vietnames tabacoo smugglers you mean? Methamphetamine dealing on bohemian border? That's what you mean with blending in? This is laughable. I know enough hard working vietnames as arabs or turks over here. Or parasitc germans in second generation, for that. Don't ask for there exceptional skills in german. You just pick examples to prove your POV and let any other argument go.
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>I haven't expressed a POV, but now I will: all over the world, the figures show that Vietnamese refugees tend to assimilate well. Google "Vietnamese refugee assimilate" to confirm. Why? Because the first generation has little English (or Belgian) but does not languish on benefits, it takes menial jobs or starts a business. Second or third generation goes to medical school. Meanwhile you cannot hope to scold me for picking examples to prove what you claim is my POV when you choose a tobacco smuggler. ;-)
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>>>Are you unable or unwilling? Might it be slightly possible to have an argument? The way you possibly have learned? In taken the other sides argument and not just bashing around?
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>Why such a reaction? POVs are expressed by others: my only response is not to accept either version uncritically, which I say is a definition of prejudice.

Then it's my lack of understanding. My apology. My eyes seems to have seen it more harsh then you have expressed it.

All I mean is that there is no simple solution nor simple explanation.

Vietnamese refugee - I have no contact to. We have other supply of vietnamese population over here. Mainly the like - mostly hard working people. Mostly. But they work in closed circles. Family with big M. Hardly to distinguish from the muslims next door in the basically the same business. But then it starts. Different culture, different idea live.
The (most) of the muslims stuck in there small world they have been told about the one and only book (the normal muslim is unable to understand or read it) How long has the church done the same to us? You have a slight idea of the price we have paid to get rid of them? Thirty Years' War? The second biggest destruction of productive power the last millenium has seen in germany? (Don't ask for the largest, you wouldn't believe)
The muslims are 500 years younger, they have a way to go. And the bible is known as man made (and disputable) even to the pope, while the quran is not.

So knowing that there is only to throw them into the sea or to do your best to integrate them, teach that your ideas are worth to have a second thought. And people that run in small circles, no job, no idea to work a job, second generation we have enough off on our own. The mindset of some of them is hardly to distinct from a common daesh fighter.

And please don't call it socialist. This is insulting. It's social democratic. In socialist times this would have been rare. Very, very rare. There is allways a percentage of a population that is not wired to work, but they had a hard time then.
Words are given to man to enable him to conceal his true feelings.
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