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Not exactly bribery but close enough
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20/12/2016 08:55:59
 
 
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19/12/2016 18:39:37
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
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Politics
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Elections
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
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>>>It's useful in looking at the state of the electorate from one angle, but otherwise meaningless.
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>Campaigning and voting would be very different if it were a national ballot. For example: under the electoral college system, CA Republicans might as well not vote for president because CA is overwhelmingly Democrat. So if 3.5M Republicans nevertheless voted in CA, how many more would vote if they knew it actually mattered? We cannot say, which is why it's meaningless to paste results from one process into another.
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>As an aside, Trump won the national ballot outside CA and it was just 4 cities in CA that gave it to HRC. My question would be: is it really fairer to allow 4 West Coast cities to overturn the wishes of the more populous rest of the nation? If that's fair, then why not for Congress as well - you could save a bomb by only holding the election in those 4 cities while the rest of the nation meekly accepts the result.

But you can make the argument in the opposite direction. Only about 12 states mattered in this election, so the campaigns visited them over and over. Voters in California and New York and Texas and Wyoming and ... didn't get to have an impact.

As for why California should count for a lot more, how about because a lot more people live there? As of the 2010 census, the population of CA was over 39 million. That's more than the total of the smallest 20 states plus DC.

As for voter turnout, this page (http://www.electproject.org/2016g) seems to indicate that turnout is not particularly higher in swing states or lower in those where the result is a foregone conclusion.

Tamar
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