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27/02/2017 16:36:16
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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>>But he made the promise over three dozen times, often with a "Let me be clear....if you like your doctor/plan". The sheer number of times in a public setting and the bold but simple message are a compelling context.

So? As I keep saying, the literal meaning is valid. At a Harvard law school reunion dinner, Obama could argue his position forever.

>>The evidence of sheer dishonesty is overwhelming. Our mutual UT friend (TCH) made that point perfectly clear to you back in late 2013. :)

I have no recollection of that. I've tried to explain my reasoning, you simply keep saying he lied.

Even if some people didn't have a grandfathered plan renewed or their doctor wasn't part of the replacement- you need to say why that's the ACA's doing rather than a post hoc fallacy. Surely nobody thought Obama meant that the ACA imposed additional clauses on insurers and physicians, forcing automatic right of renewal for policyholders and physician participation whether they like it or not? Surely his point was that the ACA would not force pre-existing arrangements to be terminated, which literally (in the proper meaning of that word) is true when the grandfather period kept being extended until grandfathered plans were no more.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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