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>He said "Moscow had sought to lure Americans down "a treasonous path." whether or not they succeeded is beside the point in terms of whether or not they meddled with the election. Fact is they meddled, and the fact you don't believe can be attributed to them having some success with that, and possibly lured your vote. It seriously sounds like you've fallen victim to the key parts of the dictators handbook - don't believe any of the media or any other branches of the government, and only Trump can be believed and only he can fix it. See a pattern here yet dude? You got suckered I'm tellen ya.

Victor, you're a good guy (and I know people who know you personally, who attest to that): but last sentence is just plain ridiculous. It's totally without merit, and uncalled for. No one can force you what to say, but you really need an attitude adjustment if you think anyone "got suckered".

In the case of Bill F, he was saying things like that far before the election campaign.