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Obamacare: and so it begins
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05/07/2017 22:49:48
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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Politics
Category:
Health
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01652327
Message ID:
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>>Because this is what PP is about - women's health. Do you understand this or what?

I understand numbers, not slogans. Consider: PP does 35% of the nation's abortions but <1% of US pap smears and <2% of US breast exams. Is this what you mean by women's health?

>>Look I'm giving you some slack here because you don't live in the USA and simply are unaware of what Planned Parenthood does, how they function, or for that matter pretty much anything about it.

Alternatively, perhaps I earn my living knowing exactly what organizations like PP do and how they're funded. Don't let that stop you acting superior based on your own superficial internet searches, though.

>>You seem to think there is some sort of cover up or hiding going on - which is absurd as its a non-profit and that's not even possible.

Perhaps if you imagine that this is Trump refusing to reveal his tax returns, you'll understand the concern. ;-) Go to any PP annual report in the last few years (which they are obliged to publish, unlike Trump) and find income broken down by service modality. I challenge you to demonstrate how their earnings for the <1% of smears and <2% of breast exams dwarf the income from the 35% of abortions. Maybe they do- but you won't find it in the annual report that (for the second time) replaces the usual earnings breakdown with service headcounts so that dispensing a $2 pill counts the same as a $1500 abortion.

>>All I can say is you need to look deeper into Planned Parenthood and learn some more about it - because you can't talk about all the problems with it if you're clueless to anything about it -- and based on what you're saying here that's the conclusion I've come too. Again this is somewhat understandable as you don't live here and have zero experience with them.

Whereas in real life, I asked questions about some figures to which you responded "you don't know what you're talking about" before reluctantly accepting all but one of them. For the 3rd time now:

- 35% of the nation's abortions? I think you eventually accepted that.
- More black babies in NY aborted than born? I think you accepted that too.

Oh, I also mentioned mammograms. Does PP perform mammograms? I say "no."

Last but not least: % of PP income from abortions. See reference to annual reports above. With PP refusing to publish the numbers as would end speculation overnight, apparently you feel uniquely qualified to issue declarations. My own attitude is that when it comes to healthcare funding "the more you know, the more you realize you don't know." If this means that I know less than you, I can live with that.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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