>>>Couple points on that line of thought -- doing nothing about the climate will cost a lot more money than actually doing something about it. I do not know why you think Hawaii would end up back in the 19th century. We already use clean energy quite a bit here, and tourists from all over the world are not going to suddenly quite coming to Hawaii - which brings in like $1.5 billion to the islands every month.
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>How will they get there? Oceangoing ships are dirtier than aircraft and as you say, it would be terrible to increase use of those just so fat cat tourists can do the hula, or NY socialites can include Hawaiian pineapple in their fruit salad.

Advances in technology -- there will be commercial electric airplanes charged by solar powered plants eventually.

>>>There are 3 people in the USA who between them have more money than the poorest 160 million Americans. In other words 3 people have more money than 1/2 the population of the whole country. Laws can, and do all the time, change. The rich did not get all the money at once and it will take time. The rich can not say immune forever.
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>OK, but money transfers in a blink of an eye in 2019. Here today, in Lichtenstein tomorrow.

That is true. American's hiding money offshore has been a problem for a long time -- they're trying to combat that and have had some success. When you have a law that says you'll go to jail if you do that it puts a pretty big dent in that problem.

>>>That is a good example of how not to do it --- doesn't mean it can't be done.
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>It's how the rich react to increased taxes they have to pay themselves- and surely not a surprise.

Agreed -- that's kind of my point of why its a bad example.

>>>The protests resulted in the democrats gaining control of the house lol.
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>Apart from an opportunity to say yay, that doesn't actually change living conditions for anybody except the new congresspeople. I'm talking about things that improve outcomes and the only entity that can do that unilaterally, is actually POTUS subject only to SCOTUS.

those "congresspeople" make the laws that govern the country. I'd say they have the ability to effect change more than anyone else.

>>>So you don't think any left wing media has reported that every Republican since Teddy Roosevelt has had a recession? Really? OMG just google it lol.
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>That's your reason to expect a recession- that every Republican since Roosevelt had a recession so Trump will have one too?

That and all the things the GOP has done.