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Talking Rotten
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From
10/02/2019 13:52:17
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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Forum:
Politics
Category:
Economics
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01665625
Message ID:
01666219
Views:
50
>>That is correct. They do have everything they need already to impeach -- but the GOP will not do it for reasons I already told you.

What are you talking about? The Dems control the House and in real life they can expect GOP votes as well, if there's actual evidence. Ask Nixon who resigned to avoid such impeachment, or Clinton who was impeached by the House for obstructing justice and lying to Congress. Clinton was saved by venal democrats in Senate as no doubt Trump might be, but that doesn't stop the House impeaching him if there's actual evidence. Instead, Pelosi has to keep heading off attempts to impeach using versions of your attack dossier that are so extreme that they risk an impression of crying wolf.

>>That makes no sense though. Fascism is not coming from the left -- it's coming from the right. I

LOL. Attributed to Churchill: "the fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists." Which he may not have actually said, but Woods did say something along the lines of "scratch a liberal, find a fascist every time." As an example of what they mean: one of the first things fascists do, is infiltrate institutions particularly the MSM to ensure slavish adherence to the cause. Not even you can accuse Trump of that. Next, set up groups of citizens as legitimate hate targets, e.g. deplorables, 30% of the population designated as idiots or those who wear a kepi or MAGA hat who are declared to be the haters so they can be attacked by real haters and bullies waving a virtuous flag. Next, propose revolutionary change to get trains running on time, save the planet or some other campaign that those awful deplorables are to blame for our unhappiness so lets get them. And hanging over all of it: absolute intolerance and abuse directed at anybody who strays from the Orwellian fascist narratives.

>> As far as saying "I cannot recall" -- that does not really matter if their is a paper trail, emails, bank records, etc etc.

Had Flynn said "I don't recall" he might still be there, instead of destroyed by a perjury trap after he was bugged. Had Trump Jr said "I don't recall" about the meeting about adopting Russian kids, you couldn't confabulate a scenario with Trump telling him to lie. Even Manafort in his misery was additionally accused of lying with even the Obama judge expressing some unease at this tactic. Meanwhile HRC has used not recalling to great effect and after this Mueller rampage through the ranks of Trump allies, you should expect the right to not remember very much at all or keep many records that can't be deleted or bit bleached at will. I agree that this is a win for the venal swamp and a negative for the nation, but that's how politics continues to degenerate in the US.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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