>>Hello Tamar,
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>>what are you using as replacement?
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>In my case, I was using it pretty much always after a query, so just replaced with RECCOUNT().

I got to the practice of storing _tally into a variable or property immediately after the statement which did what I need to _tally for. Few lines later it may be wrong, for whichever reason - and timers aren't the only thing. It may be a slightly complicated SKIPFOR expression, or a grid refresh or who knows what code. Also, I've noticed that in VFP9 _tally behaves differently in some situations than it behaved in all previous versions. Can't remember what it was - it's been a dozen years - but there WAS something which made me rely on it less and less.