>>I have toolbar button that won't stay put (more than one actually).
>>since i am not able to control the "left" position at runtime, i am developing "Toolbar button phobia".
>>it is not a recognized mental disorder but that doesn't mean i am not crazy.
>>Does anyone know the cure?
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>Wasn't that a problem of ZORDER? Just try zorder the elements.

I had an impression that it's not the elements, it's the toolbar itself which feels like moving where it wants.

Wasn't docking the best known antidote for this? Also, it's possible that it stores its position in foxuser and then ignores everything, trusting only what foxuser says.