>Good try, Hank, but let's get real.
>With the virus, we needed a steady hand and Joe did a pretty good job with that.

Without the virus, your kids would only learn about 45 prez at this moment.

>Joe is a lot better than the alternative we had, but he's a political hack who should have retired long ago.
>This man has spent his whole life trying to figure out what people want to hear and has done a good job figuring that out - but that's not leadership.

Yupp, and this worries me a lot on US political system. Falling back on "quasi-aristocratic" families for candidates or the VP **not** elevated as candidate in 2016 as he was considered too old....

>Way down deep, he's probably a good person and we dodged a bullet when he beat that animal but this man should be a one term president.
>If his only accomplishment was to beat that degenerate, that's still a pretty good record.
>I suspect that he knows that.
>The party has some exciting people banging on the door.
>Joe can do his best work by letting some of them come forward.

Must say I have no info on Kamela (besides some remarks from Kevin), but the tone of approval after nominating her (less on accomplishments, more on political balancing and harvesting votes not entirely pro Biden) were depressing. Or: the real surprise winner of VP debate was the fly...